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Youtube's Latest War on User's Videos [CONFIRMED]

This is a much needed Thread because there is a lot of Confusion out there regarding Youtube's latest Policy Update and how it contributes to all the recent Video Removals that have been happening.

I figured since I am one of the Longest Standing and most Qualified Providers of Youtube Services here on SEOClerks (that I know of), I feel it is my Duty to help bring some clarity to this Matter, on behalf of all the other Youtube Providers, and all the Users who's Videos have been Suddenly REMOVED after hiring a Provider here on SEOClerks.

I have been a "Policy Compliant" Youtube Service provider for over 5 years now. Which means all Views from our Services are deemed "Acceptable" by Youtube Policies.
That means all Views come from willing Viewers who actually make a conscious choice to View each Video by their own Free Will.

YET, I HAVE RECEIVED TWO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK REMARKS IN THE LAST WEEK FROM USERS WHO DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER BUT TO BLAME MY SERVICE.

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So I did some research and discovered that there are MANY other Quality Service Providers just like me, here on SEOClerks who are dealing with the same problem with Youtube Videos right now.

In fact, take a look at these other Youtube Services and read their recent Feedback.
Here are just a few I just found now (Click each URL on TOP to go to the actual Gig & CLICK on each Screenshot to ENLARGE):
@Topviews

https://www.seoclerks.com/youtube/49747/give-you-15-000-High-Retention-youtube-views
Youtube


@vaibhavsharda
https://www.seoclerks.com/youtube/39855/Get-Youtube-Likes-100-upto-2000-now-check-extras-REAL-and-ACTIVE-accounts
Youtube



@aapta
https://www.seoclerks.com/youtube/23094/Offer-you-4000-views-for-your-youtube-video
Youtube

@alimalik87
https://www.seoclerks.com/youtube/95425/provide-1234-Youtube-Video-Views-in-24-hours
Youtube

@views
https://www.seoclerks.com/youtube/51300/give-100000-youtube-views-High-Qaulity-facebook-refferel-views-100-adsense
Youtube

Notice a Trend?? See all the recent Negative Feedbacks??
Those are ALL Different Sellers!!


Youtube is removing ALL Videos that violate their Updated Policies, and the Users are BLAMING Service Providers and ruining their reputations with Negative Feedback. Kinda sad isn't it?

People need to also keep in mind that your Video may have been in Violation for a long time, but when your Video begins to receive Views (especially over the 301+ mark), it grabs the attention of Youtube Review Team. Isn't that what you wanted though? To get noticed?

Youtube is removing thousands of User Videos right now for various reasons- and I will tell you why.

One Common scenario that I see a lot is similar to the Feedback left in THIS SCREENSHOT - where the User says it's the Service Provider's fault, yet when you go to the Video's URL, it says it was removed because of it's "CONTENT":
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But even if your Video's Content didn't actually Violate Youtube T.O.S. and it was all good, Youtube's Policies can't Prevent, Restrict, or Suspend the Service Provider's Video Services. They can only enforce their Policies on the User.

So the outside Source is actually in full compliance no matter what.

Now here's where it gets tricky:
Even if that "outside Source" provides totally SAFE, "Natural Views" (which is what we provide), Youtube can still flag your Video for "unnatural Views".

You wanna know why?? This is the misunderstanding people are having right now.

The Term "unnatural Views" has a double meaning.
  • 1st Meaning)- BOTS, Automated Views, Scripts, etc.
  • 2nd Meaning)- an unnatural Amount of Views in relevance to other aspects of the account such as Subscriber Count, or anything out of the ordinary.


In most of the recent cases, if a User had a Low Subscriber Count, or a brand new Youtube account, or any numbers that don't make Sense, Youtube will Flag & Remove it.


ACCORDING TO YOUTUBE, IT IS NOT THE SERVICE PROVIDER'S RESPONSIBILITY!!

Youtube Policy States:
"Each User is responsible for their video's traffic. If you contract a company that gives you spam instead of views, you pay the price, not the Provider who was hired.

Purchasing views for your videos directly from third-party websites (e.g. paying $10 for 10,000 views) is NOT ALLOWED!!"

After all, if you hire a 3rd party to send Views to your Video. Real Views or not. Either way, you Violated Youtube's Terms the Moment you clicked the "ORDER" Button.

PLEASE DO NOT BLAME YOUR SERVICE PROVIDER OR LEAVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK!!

So let's all try to be more aware of this so everyone can be happy and make videos, not war.

Youtube Policy Links:
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3399767
http://youtubecreator.blogspot.com/2012/01/views-and-3rd-party-services.html
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801973?hl=en&ref_topic=2803176
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3470104?hl=en&ref_topic=2803176

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jakemadness

I liked @vaibhavsharda's response to the negative feedback, I would of replied with roughly the same. Thank you Jordan for making us more aware of what is going on with youtube lately I also feel kind of sorry for youtube service providers with the same problem where the buyers are not thinking before rating Youtube




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exjordanary

I also decided to expand my research to other Service Providers, but these were on Fiverr.

I just browsed the Top-Rated and Level 2 Seller's Youtube Gigs and this is what I found.

Look at the Screenshots BELOW- They are each from Different Youtube Gigs, each offered by Different Sellers too.

Notice how many POSITIVE Feedbacks these Gigs each have, and how recent the Negatives were left by User's who's Videos got removed:


(CLICK ON EACH SCREENSHOT to ENLARGE)
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I just found out today that Youtube will Suspend your whole Channel and Delete ALL Videos if your Google+ Page is Suspended.

Because my Google Plus Profile was Suspended a couple months ago for using the "Social Bump" function here on SEOClerks a couple times.
and now the CommunityClerks Verified Partner Youtube Channel is GONE! Suspended.
Deleted without warning or notice.
Not even an email afterwards to tell me they Suspended it.

Read my Post in THIS THREAD I wrote about my Google Plus Profile getting Suspended back when it happened.
-and I'm not alone. It's happening to other Users here too.
See THIS RECENT THREAD Posted by another User.




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exjordanary

I liked @vaibhavsharda's response to the negative feedback, I would of replied with roughly the same. Thank you Jordan for making us more aware of what is going on with youtube lately I also feel kind of sorry for youtube service providers with the same problem where the buyers are not thinking before rating Youtube



What I find kinda backwards about Youtube & Google is the fact that you can never seem to get a hold of any Humans.
EVER!
Every email, Warning Notice, Suspension Notification, and Appeal Rejection Letter is sent by an Automated Responder BOT!!

Yet, they won't allow their Users to use Automation or BOTS on their Videos!!

It's like Battle of the BOTS.
Shouldn't they lead by example??




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What I find kinda backwards about Youtube & Google is the fact that you can never seem to get a hold of any Humans.
EVER!
Every email, Warning Notice, Suspension Notification, and Appeal Rejection Letter is sent by an Automated Responder BOT!!

Yet, they won't allow their Users to use Automation or BOTS on their Videos!!

It's like Battle of the BOTS.
Shouldn't they lead by example??


I think they should at least have a team of staff to respond to peoples questions, rather than the question being phrased through a bot to respond to them with a selection from an array of already created answers. I bet most videos are deleted automatically, what if that video actually did go viral like many do? I see your point there are many ways Youtube could improve there systems another one being there comment system.




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vinothmech

Hi,
Thanks @exjordanary for your kind info. about this. In last 2 weeks 7 of my Youtube videos got deleted. My client is totally angry on me. Fortunately I have'nt got the negative review as the seller has good understanding with me.

I don't know What a shit going with youtube. I am offering 1000 views for 1$ and I will take 3 days to deliver this. Views updated but suddenly after 2 days youtube banned our video. I am offering youtube views for over 2 years never experienced a problem like this. Once the video Banned entire channel got a problem. Youtube freezes the videos at 301+ for many days. Even the views are natural!! I have promoted the video Legaly and also using Scripts but nothing I am seeeing. All kind of views leading the video to ban. Even Retention views I have added to a video Banned ( Mobile Views as well )

Youtube Just posted like this in the video


"This video has been removed because its content violated YouTube'sTerms of Service."

Any one Please help.

-Vinoth.






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exjordanary

Hi,
Thanks @exjordanary for your kind info. about this. In last 2 weeks 7 of my Youtube videos got deleted. My client is totally angry on me. Fortunately I have'nt got the negative review as the seller has good understanding with me.

I don't know What a shit going with youtube. I am offering 1000 views for 1$ and I will take 3 days to deliver this. Views updated but suddenly after 2 days youtube banned our video. I am offering youtube views for over 2 years never experienced a problem like this. Once the video Banned entire channel got a problem. Youtube freezes the videos at 301+ for many days. Even the views are natural!! I have promoted the video Legaly and also using Scripts but nothing I am seeeing. All kind of views leading the video to ban. Even Retention views I have added to a video Banned ( Mobile Views as well )

Youtube Just posted like this in the video


"This video has been removed because its content violated YouTube'sTerms of Service."

Any one Please help.
-Vinoth.




Read what I wrote about the Double meaning of "Unnatural Views" (above). Your views might be Natural in in that they're not "Automated" or BOTS. But a User with 2 Subscribers who suddenly gets 1000 Natural Views, is considered an "Unnatural AMOUNT" of Views relative to the amount of Subscribers that user has.

The "301 Freeze" is when Youtube is Verifying the Validity of the Views. Which is why many user Videos don't get Removed until after they order your Service. Because it forces Youtube to Review their Video. But hey, that's what happens when you want to get noticed on Youtube, you're also gonna get noticed by the Robots.

Also, there are people who are taking advantage of the fact that Youtube is all Robots (similar to X-eBay Sellers who became abusive Buyers).

What they do is seek out Videos that are getting many Views that are Competitors in the same Niche. Then they SPAM their Videos with Comments advertising their own Website. Once they've left a bunch of SPAM Comments, they FLAG the Video for containing SPAM!!

Which ends up getting the Video removed!!

And Youtube has NO System in place to Verify the Authenticity of the "FLAGGER".

So now, the SPAMMERS are also FLAGGERS taking down their Competitors Videos.

I even explained this when Appealing this when it happened on a couple of my Videos, but how's a Robot supposed to understand that?




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seoconsul

Respected Sir,

May be, sometimes footprints of activities for videos, that gets views, likes etc at high speed, compared to similar videos, or anything might have flagged for manual reviews

Like a video gets a huge views on Monday mornings, compared to hardly any search activities of similar or the said video - something that looks unnatural or facts as cited by vinothmech

With regards,




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exjordanary

I do provide youtube views with no video delete issues.
Its completely safe, have tested it a lots of time!
Completed orders for upto 250k views and etc, examples in the description.
Been working for a music company since 2 months and they give me orders like in every two days. None of the videos got deleted yet.

Works fine with Old /New channels both.
Click here to read more

Also few tips to sellers and buyers:
1) Please provide a reasonable amount of likes too while you sell the views. Tested this and luckily no channels got banned/ deleted.
2) If you are a reseller or provider, dont go for mobile views.
3) Go for sources which provides daily 5k-10k Views.
4) Fast views works too, but make sure your source isnt providing fast "Mobile" views. I have got views with a speed of 70k views a day. Again, no delete issues.

Just order once, and you wont be disappointed. Youtube



LOL- That sure lasted long!!

"This service is currently suspended and cannot be ordered."

Love it.
-ex




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Everett

Hello,

Also, one more thing. Google HATES, and I can not stress it enough, HATES blank referrers such as Addmefast anonym.to etc referrers. If Youtube detects multiple influxes of blank or even FAKE referrers then ALL the videos you have liked would be banned. For instance, I have used Addmefast to gain points and I have targeted the Youtube Like section because I have a pretty nifty imacros for it and then today I have found out all the videos I liked, and I mean ALL videos from AddMefast were deleted/banned.

So note: My Youtube acct is still working just the videos I liked are all banned via AMF.

Best Regards,
Everett




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exjordanary

Woah!
Fortunately, yeah fortunately, this isnt the scenario in my case.
Here are a list of video along with their dates when i got the likes on them via AMF.

A week ago, approx (Dec 8,2013) :

Yesterday, campaign finished today. :

An year ago, first ever order (dec 1, 2012) :


I am lucky as my earnings majorly depends on youtube likes Youtube

Also, i checked the videos which i liked using imacros scripts, they are all in my account and are fine.
This isnt happening to everyone, and maybe its gonna take some time for youtube to implement it all over.
So, i guess we know whats coming.

Thanks Everett for the info. Will take necessary steps to find alternatives to AMF.

Thanks
Vaibhav


I think you're in the wrong forum bud.

This is regarding FULL SERVICE, Staff Certified, Youtube Providers (Views, Likes, Subs, Favs, Comments) who actually have received Feedback.

Plus, views alone don't do ANYTHING to Rank Videos anymore.

Ok, so TWO Videos from a Week ago- which is cool and all.
But I don't understand. I mean, I can list over 50 Videos that I've done in the last Week that haven't been taken down.
-and I can also List over 200 Videos from over a Year ago that are still up and Monetized today. In fact, you can see the Video URL's Listed in the Feedback Remarks MY SERVICE (just keep clicking "View More" until you get towards the bottom where I used to List each Video's URL's in my Feedback replies for Proof to others)

Or, you can just watch this Video:


No disrespect to you my brother. None at all. But I think the reason why you aren't experiencing any problems is because you aren't experiencing any Orders either (or Feedback for that matter). - And Youtube probably doesn't pay attention to you since you haven't begun to get many Orders. You know what I mean? This is no attempt to insult you whatsoever. But I can only go off of what I see.

So maybe if you had, say...250+ Feedbacks on your Service, it would be different.

Which leads me to my next question. Why don't you tell us exactly what your methods are and be a part of the Solution. You ever head the expression? "If you can't provide a solution, don't get involved in the problem"? *LOL* Youtube

-and I'm not talking about stating the Obvious like Mobile Views, although there's nothing wrong with Mobile marketing as long as it's just ONE aspect of how you gather Viewers. If you don't wish to share this Publicly, then Submit your Service for Staff Certification.

ME? I'd be glad to share all my resources.
  • -I own over 15 Websites
  • -Admin of the SEOClerks Blog where I run all sorts of Video Promotions & Contests
  • -I own over 20 Facebook Pages
  • -I have over 15 Popular Pinterest Boards (most are "Group"boards) w/ over 800 Followers each)
  • -I have 77k Instagram Followers
  • -I own 8 or 9 Twitter Account (half with Klout Scores of 50 or more)
  • -I am Incorporated- so I can have multiple Youtube Parter User Accounts using our Corporate account, which are managed by separate Managers
  • -I have a Publishing Company (member of ASCAP) which utilizes several advertising strategies such as Twitter Ads, FBAds, Mobile Gaming Advertising (and other cutting edge sources that I don't care to give away for free)


All of these can be/or have been Verified by SEOClerks Staff upon Staff Certification of my Service.

Please apply for Staff Certification. Get Certified before your next reply.

Until then, contact Users: apache77 and tyfras - as they need a new Youtube Service Provider.

Hopefully, they will be happy with it. I just want everyone to be happy.

Let me know how it goes.




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exjordanary

Respected Sir,

May be, sometimes footprints of activities for videos, that gets views, likes etc at high speed, compared to similar videos, or anything might have flagged for manual reviews

Like a video gets a huge views on Monday mornings, compared to hardly any search activities of similar or the said video - something that looks unnatural or facts as cited by vinothmech

With regards,


vinothmech was responding to a Video I was talking about that had NEVER received ANY Service WHATSOEVER!! No Promotions. No buying of Views. It's Content did not Violate Community Guidlines. NOTHING. I am VERY AWARE of every single Policy, Reason, or Rhyme - of how Youtube goes about things.

My point was this:

Since User's are now aware that Youtbube is removing Videos for almost any reason, these User's are now using it to their Advantage as a Means of Performing "Negative Video SEO" to take down their Competitors. Get it? Make sense??

This happens on eBay to this day!! NOT with Negative Feedback. That's too obvious. Did you know that you could shut down a PowerSeller with 100% Positive Feedback without ever having to Leave Negative Feedback? Did you know you could do this and remain completely Anonymous??

They're called DSR Ratings (Detailed Seller Ratings) - the cute little Stars you give along with your Feedback to Rate:

  • Item as Described
  • Communication
  • Shipping Time
  • Shipping Cost

Just leave 1-Star for all Four areas 3 Times within a 6 Month period:

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But that's just an example.

Back to Youtube talk:

Let's say I owned a Carpet Cleaning Company in California, I'd simply Search for Videos with those Keywords, then perform Services on those Videos to get them taken down. I could hire someone to do Automated Mobile Views for $1 Dollar and take down my Competition. Get it?

Therefore, there will ALWAYS be a need for Automated Youtube Views. Whether Positive, or Negative.

In fact, that's the feeling I got when our Channel Disappeared. I think maybe one of our disgruntled x-clients who's Video got removed, just sent a bunch of automated views, & comments to our videos. Cuz that's what I noticed just before it happened.

Unfortunately, Youtube does not have a System in place to fight Negative Video SEO. So, watch out. You could be NEXT!!




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mqss

I have a question because debate is about YT views.... Does Youtube ban whole accounts, channels or just removes videos? I have about 10 channels on 1 account, it would be a disaster if Youtube would ban it.




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Everett

Hell
Hello!
Thanks for all the info but what i replied to Everett, was about youtube likes and not youtube views.
He posted info about the liked videos from AMF getting banned (old and new both, in fact "all"), and I just informed him that this want the case with me.
...
Thanks
Vaibhav

Hello,
I have a Youtube account solely for AMF youtube likes since that's pretty much the easiest way to get points via AMF for me. I also have a pretty nifty Youtube auto liker (undetectable) via javascript or "greasemonkey". Each and every single video I liked via AMF was deleted. I'm thinking Youtube has created many 'bots' to detect if the like, or view was genuine, or if there referrer was blank, or faked. They may have implemented a couple new features we don't even know about. However, Youtube is always tweaking something so whom knows! But I do know that every video I have liked on that account is now deleted - oops! o_O

Best Regards,
Everett




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Everett

I think its just a start.
Beware.


Hello,

We are speaking about Youtube so whom knows and beware for everyone offering Youtube services, legit or not! LOL ;)

Best Regards,
Everett




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exjordanary

Hell

Hello!

Thanks for all the info but what i replied to Everett, was about youtube likes and not youtube views.
He posted info about the liked videos from AMF getting banned (old and new both, in fact "all"), and I just informed him that this want the case with me.
Secondly, my service for youtube likes is Staff Certified. It has been for like 9 months.

Coming to youtube views,
I know i dont get much sales on seoclerks for views. People dont trust new sellers as they are afraid of ending up with banned video.
But a music company gives me 5-6 Links daily to work upon.
And, as i mentioned, its tested with time too. We have not recd. any flaws till now and i have been doing this since 2 months.
I did work upon completely new videos and new channels both.
100+ Videos, no deletes, no channel bans.

Also, the need for automated views. Yes i agree, its always gonna be there. In fact, its too good too as 1$ can help an aggrieved seller to take action against his scammer client and many other situations.
I am not neglecting its use in unfair means, but we can have a look at its positive aspects too.

Another thing, thanks for mentioning the usernames of youtube providers, i did contact one of them as another one dint exist.
Lets see how it turns out Youtube

Thanks
Vaibhav



Ok, well then I sure am the idiot here. Never mind. I should just shut the f***up. and mind my own....I guess I assumed you were talking to the "Public" and to "ME" since this IS a Public Forum in a Thread that I started. So I receive an Alert whenever you reply.

Hope you understand why I got confused.

Perhaps you and Derek should try chatting via PM??(just a suggestion) cuz this is confusing me (and making me feel like an idiot)- I assumed you were just saying the word "Likes", while you meant "Views" - only because in an earlier post, you stated:

"Works fine with Old /New channels both.
Click here to read more
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and since I can't find your "Likes" Service.

I assumed you were speaking of your "Views" Service (which isn't Staff Certified).

Sorry for the confusion.

Carry on about your day. I gotta go. Way too busy for this...
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exjordanary

Sorr

Sorry if you felt bad.
Had no intention to do that.
Seriously, i respect you and your researches.
You have already helped me a lot of times.

Regard
Vaibhav

*LOL* Youtube Ohh. No worries my brotha.
I was not directing any of my self-concious insecurities towards you, or blaming u for my feelings *lol* (i guess if you knew my sense of humor, you would know that I was in my "Self-Loathing Mode" *LOL*).

I was just giving myself a hard time- but doing it out loud. In a public forum.

I apologize to anyone else who had to listen.

Back to Youtube. Things seem to be running smoothly now.

I have a question because debate is about YT views.... Does Youtube ban whole accounts, channels or just removes videos? I have about 10 channels on 1 account, it would be a disaster if Youtube would ban it.



@mqss - YES!!!

Weird Fact: Our Partner Channel even got removed for no reason - then 2 weeks later, it suddenly appeared again!!


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YES, the WHOLE CHANNEL. ALL Videos were gone!! NO emails. EVER!! When it was removed, their reason was that I had a Suspended Google+ Account.
Read THIS POST and

THIS POST
Now it's back - I don't know what I did.


The 1st day it was back, it's Stats weren't updated yet- and the Views were at like 230 Views.

Now, as you can see, they are back to their normal Total: 1,996,979 Views




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rozzski999

are we saying we should not use the SEO services for you tube views then>




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rozzski999

I order about 20 orders a day for you tube views from various sellers on SEO CLERKS.
Are we saying that we should stop this now due to You Tubes new TOS??

I have noticed that the top seller of Fiverr has removed his GIG- he sold over 24,000 gigs for You Tube views....

BD




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futuren

vinothmech was responding to a Video I was talking about that had NEVER received ANY Service WHATSOEVER!! No Promotions. No buying of Views. It's Content did not Violate Community Guidlines. NOTHING. I am VERY AWARE of every single Policy, Reason, or Rhyme - of how Youtube goes about things.

My point was this:

Since User's are now aware that Youtbube is removing Videos for almost any reason, these User's are now using it to their Advantage as a Means of Performing "Negative Video SEO" to take down their Competitors. Get it? Make sense??

This happens on eBay to this day!! NOT with Negative Feedback. That's too obvious. Did you know that you could shut down a PowerSeller with 100% Positive Feedback without ever having to Leave Negative Feedback? Did you know you could do this and remain completely Anonymous??

They're called DSR Ratings (Detailed Seller Ratings) - the cute little Stars you give along with your Feedback to Rate:

  • Item as Described
  • Communication
  • Shipping Time
  • Shipping Cost

Just leave 1-Star for all Four areas 3 Times within a 6 Month period:

Youtube

But that's just an example.

Back to Youtube talk:

Let's say I owned a Carpet Cleaning Company in California, I'd simply Search for Videos with those Keywords, then perform Services on those Videos to get them taken down. I could hire someone to do Automated Mobile Views for $1 Dollar and take down my Competition. Get it?

Therefore, there will ALWAYS be a need for Automated Youtube Views. Whether Positive, or Negative.

In fact, that's the feeling I got when our Channel Disappeared. I think maybe one of our disgruntled x-clients who's Video got removed, just sent a bunch of automated views, & comments to our videos. Cuz that's what I noticed just before it happened.

Unfortunately, Youtube does not have a System in place to fight Negative Video SEO. So, watch out. You could be NEXT!!

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