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Bing and Yahoo

Do you think their partnership is a good thing, or a bad thing?

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robertman11

Good thing for bing




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Tommy Matalino

Good thing for bing

Why do you think so?




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fivebucksdeals

Yahoo is best then bing.




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Tommy Matalino

Yahoo is best then bing.

Can you explain it a little further?




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Noreturn

Well, I think that google is still on top of all of the search engines. If you were to compare any of the two out on the web I think that comparing Bing to Yahoo would be the closest to the same anwser. Personally I dont use any of them besides Google.




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Corzhens

This reminds me of the wrestling match between a big muscled wrestler against the tandem of 2 small wrestlers. What can the pair of small wrestlers do against such a big muscled wrestler? Now this question about the search engines – what can the partnership of Bing and Yahoo do to upstage Google in the search engine industry? I don’t think it will matter even if all the search engines will be together against Google.




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Tommy Matalino

Well, I think that google is still on top of all of the search engines. If you were to compare any of the two out on the web I think that comparing Bing to Yahoo would be the closest to the same anwser. Personally I dont use any of them besides Google.

If you can choose one from Yahoo and Bing, which one will you choose?




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sam986

Do you think their partnership is a good thing, or a bad thing?


No doubt, It is the very good thing for both bing and yahoo.




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robertman11

When yahoo and google partnered, yahoo grew google phenomenally. Back then, yahoo was the #1 site on the Internet though.




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Tommy Matalino

When yahoo and google partnered, yahoo grew google phenomenally. Back then, yahoo was the #1 site on the Internet though.

Oh. I never knew that Yahoo and Google partnered before. Maybe back then, I'm not really giving my attention on these things... But all I knew is, Yahoo is very popular many years ago.




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Beverly

Do you think their partnership is a good thing, or a bad thing?


Is this an official partnership? As in one company is absorbing the other? Or, are they just working together?




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Tommy Matalino

Is this an official partnership? As in one company is absorbing the other? Or, are they just working together?

From what I can see on his post, he might meant that they were working together before.
But I haven't heard about those partnership.




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Noreturn

I think it is a good thing, I think they will start sharing what they have learned to make the ultimate search engine. I like how bing reward you for using theirs very trick thing to do to make more people use it.




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pandy

partnership is important to do muliptle business




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Beverly

From what I can see on his post, he might meant that they were working together before.
But I haven't heard about those partnership.


Is this the partnership you were talking about before?

The Yahoo! - Bing Preferred Partner Program highlights leading SEM technology providers who have committed to a higher standard of technical compatibility and advertiser experience on the Yahoo! Bing Network. Each of the preferred partners are certified Bing Ads experts who provide innovative campaign management platforms and services that enable our advertisers to better leverage the traffic and scale of the Yahoo! Bing Network.

http://advertising.yahoo.com/preferred-partner-program/




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markdavid

Yahoo & Bing both has almost same algorithm and both show almost same search results. Yahoo & Bing which is better is it little tuff to specify.




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loulou

I think that bing stinks so it will be good for them to have a partnership with yahoo.




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Tommy Matalino

yahoo is best and its good for business purpose

What makes it the "best" in your opinion? How can you compare it to Google's?




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Kat1

I like yahoo and google. I really do not use bing that much but when I did I was not really impressed with it at all.




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ralph101

It is good for bing. I think that yahoo may have made a mistake though but I am not sure. I prefer to use google anyway.




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Tommy Matalino

Anyone here use search engines other than the big 3?




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Aviator123

Mostly i use Google.But i also use other search engine like bing, yahoo etc.




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syedzaheer

yes this is best for yahoo and bing also




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ephhansharding

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Shahid

Yes ! From perspective of yahoo, it will give yahoo company stability and for webmaster it is easy to deal with 2 search engines, rather than 3 !




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Tommy Matalino

Yes ! From perspective of yahoo, it will give yahoo company stability and for webmaster it is easy to deal with 2 search engines, rather than 3 !

How is the two compared to Google?




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Shahid

Bad ! I mean still google is No.1 search engine when I see search engine market share across the globe. According to wikipedia, google has more than 70% of search engine market share, that tell you whole story Bing and Yahoo




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Tommy Matalino

Bad ! I mean still google is No.1 search engine when I see search engine market share across the globe. According to wikipedia, google has more than 70% of search engine market share, that tell you whole story Bing and Yahoo

How about the remaining 30%? Does that mean, you are ok with that 70% traffic from Google? Wouldn't it be better if you also have that 30% from other SEs?




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Shahid

Nobody is perfect ! Also, getting remaining 30% is really difficult. The reason is simple, you can't predict how bing or other search engine works. There are not many researches on them.

p.s. nobody can squeeze 70% of traffic from google !!




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Tommy Matalino

The reason is simple, you can't predict how bing or other search engine works. There are not many researches on them.

But you can predict how Google works? And is it true that not many people have interest on Bing and Yahoo?




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Shahid

I would agree with later point. But I don't think anybody knows/understand google and it's ranking algorithm fully. :|




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Tommy Matalino

I would agree with later point. But I don't think anybody knows/understand google and it's ranking algorithm fully. :|

But why do webmasters take bing and yahoo for granted?




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Shahid

I don't think they take it for granted. Most of them ignore it. The reason could be that many internet users don't use it Bing and Yahoo




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Tommy Matalino

I don't think they take it for granted. Most of them ignore it. The reason could be that many internet users don't use it Bing and Yahoo

The reason I don't use BING is because it's not on my list of search engines on my toolbar. Is that a valid reason? Bing and Yahoo




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shek

But why do webmasters take bing and yahoo for granted?


I guess the reason for taking bing and yahoo for granted/ignoring is that they know not many uses these search engines. Also, the returns after doing lot of hardwork is less for bing and yahoo.




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Shahid

The reason I don't use BING is because it's not on my list of search engines on my toolbar. Is that a valid reason? Bing and Yahoo


lol.. Yes, it is a valid reason. Bing and Yahoo
Still if you want to use bing, you can always add it in list of search engines or goto bing.com and search Bing and Yahoo




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home1234

I think it is good idea for both Bing and Yahoo. After the friendship they can easily increase their popularity and target the visitors.




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shek

Anyone here use search engines other than the big 3?


Yup, I've used yandex quite a lot when I was targeting Russians. Yandex is No.1 search engine in Russia, so you have to use it when you are concentrating traffic from a specific region.




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Shahid

I think it is good idea for both Bing and Yahoo. After the friendship they can easily increase their popularity and target the visitors.


They are not succeeding in there attempt ! It is google, which is still going strong. I guess for next 2-3 years google will still rule search engine market.




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Tommy Matalino

Also, the returns after doing lot of hardwork is less for bing and yahoo.

Can you prove this?
I know it could take a little more time for Yahoo/Bing to index a new site compared to Google, but still, it is indexed, not totally ignored.




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gamer

I guess by returns he is pointing towards returns in time, which you also said is quite high for bing. Also, for getting indexed in bing, there are no clear guidelines ! So, it is much more difficult.




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Tommy Matalino

I guess by returns he is pointing towards returns in time, which you also said is quite high for bing. Also, for getting indexed in bing, there are no clear guidelines ! So, it is much more difficult.

Guidelines? Can you share what are the known guidelines for Bing?




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MikeQ

Yahoo was very popular around 10 years before, but Google came with strong idea and it defeated Yahoo..

However, Yahoo is still yahoo, and it didn't lose its uniqueness, it is same as it was before.. but you can see lots of changes in MSN to Bing, changes in home page of Bing frequently, these things don't sound good for Bing, it shows that you are copying others and you are disparate what to do and what not to do..




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Keith

Yahoo was very popular around 10 years before, but Google came with strong idea and it defeated Yahoo..

However, Yahoo is still yahoo, and it didn't lose its uniqueness, it is same as it was before.. but you can see lots of changes in MSN to Bing, changes in home page of Bing frequently, these things don't sound good for Bing, it shows that you are copying others and you are disparate what to do and what not to do..



For a long time, I didn't use Google search. It didn't seem relevant. But at some point it got more popular than Yahoo, so now that's all I ever use.




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Shahid

Guidelines? Can you share what are the known guidelines for Bing?


You can get guild lines for bing from there official site, http://www.bing.com/webmaster/help...delines-30fba23a Bing and Yahoo




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Beverly

Yahoo was very popular around 10 years before, but Google came with strong idea and it defeated Yahoo..

However, Yahoo is still yahoo, and it didn't lose its uniqueness, it is same as it was before.. but you can see lots of changes in MSN to Bing, changes in home page of Bing frequently, these things don't sound good for Bing, it shows that you are copying others and you are disparate what to do and what not to do..

And, I heard how Bing was copying/stealing Google's search algorithm. It doesn't bode well if they can't make their own algorithm. Rumor has it that angry Google engineers stormed a Microsoft conference and confronted them with proof.




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gamer

@tommy
shahid gave the link Bing and Yahoo

@Beverly
I guess that rumor was spread almost a year ago. Now, bing has there own algorithm. Atleast they claim it they habve there own database, search crawler and algo.




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Shahid

And, I heard how Bing was copying/stealing Google's search algorithm. It doesn't bode well if they can't make their own algorithm. Rumor has it that angry Google engineers stormed a Microsoft conference and confronted them with proof.



I don't think they are doing it now. Upto my knowledge google already pulled MS for this long long ago, and it was settled.




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gamer

When did that happened ? I never saw any news on it. Can you share more info or related link to it ?




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Shahid

Just look for "google bing copyright issues" in google, you will find plenty of sites Bing and Yahoo. Particularly I found article given at http://www.shoutingloudly.com/2011...ating-copyright/ is more helpful in regard to your question Bing and Yahoo




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gamer

Thanks for your reply. I was looking for an article something like that one. So, nobody knows actual result of that case ?




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Shahid

Upto my knowledge nobody knows it. I mean both companies might have thought keep it confidential Bing and Yahoo




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gamer

That is Sad. Now, when I come back to topic why do you think yahoo and bing merged hands? Isn't yahoo still going really strong?




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MikeQ

When yahoo and google partnered, yahoo grew google phenomenally. Back then, yahoo was the #1 site on the Internet though.



And same trick Bing has used to be on no. 2....




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Omar77

I think it is good for both Yahoo and Bing.




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tionna

Good for Bing. I think that it will do them a world of good.




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greak

Do you think their partnership is a good thing, or a bad thing?

its good for bing i say




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shek

They are not partners in all departments. For example, yahoo finance is still different than bing! Bing and Yahoo




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gamer

But yahoo finance still has yahoo.com as top level domain name. Didn't bing bought everything which comes under yahoo.com ?




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andgkj

Obviously, good for bing but yahoo is losing it's reputation as a search engine.




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gamer

I agree with you andgkj. But I guess yahoo didn't have any choice, as they were going bankrupt :|




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andgkj

really? I've been seeing there stock levels since long and I didn't saw any sharp drop in there stock market. What could be the reason for it?




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spykaushik

I think yahoo is best search engine. because yahoo is provide update news and cricket news, finance, group etc.




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evie

I say great for bing. Yahoo may be good guess we will have to wait and see what results it all brings in.




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enriajar

yahoo is the best




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angie828

yahoo is the best

Yes they are much better than bing but would you say that yahoo is even better than google?




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ncikman

They are already in a partnership, media.net its like google adsense




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ncikman

Anyways they both suck, google is the best!




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ncikman

I personally think that Google is way better... sorry for many post idk how to edit




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SchoolFake

Google is the best, yahoo shouldnt do anything with bing




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elladavidson

Hopefully it is a good thing. I mean Bing can only get better so for them it has to be really good. Just not so sure about yahoo though, if it will bring them down.




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Miken34

Overall I think that it will be a good thing. Or at least hopefully it is or yahoo might be in a big mess.




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XeonDeveloper

Google knocked both of them out. Online users prefer simplicity and faster services over any complexity of advancement in services and Google picked that point!




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barry

Google knocked both of them out. Online users prefer simplicity and faster services over any complexity of advancement in services and Google picked that point!

Yes Google is much better than both in my opinion.




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Theadora

I will say Bing has improved a lot I will say, but Yahoo is better than Bing as of now, in term of traffic, Yahoo is next to Bing.




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