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Do you use or have you used Password Manager?

Personally I have never used any password manager on my computer ,but I have heard about them. However, I don’t have problems with my password as I always use strong passwords and 2fa authentication for all my accounts. I wonder , if these softwares works and if there is any risk to keep all passwords stored into a software?


Do you use , or have you used any of these softwares , please share your thoughts…

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robertman11

Yes, I use 1Password which stores all of my passwords and syncs with all of my devices (Computers/Laptops, iPhone, iPad, etc). I use a randomly generated, unique password for every site I create an account for (and you should to). This software stores them all in one place and will automatically login to website via browser extensions so I only have to remember One Password (the software password) or use my fingerprint to unlock it. Pretty neat stuff.




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procoder

I have heard about that software, but do you feel safe to store all your sensitive information into a software?




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robertman11

Yes. To access the software you have to have physical access to one of my devices all of which are secure with their own password and encrypted. Take my iPhone for example, if I lost it someone would have to:

  1. Figure out the unlock password
  2. Figure out the iCloud password
  3. Figure out the 1Password password

In addition, all of my computers/devices have GPS enabled and I can remote lock them or even delete them.




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Beverly

And, how much time did it take to set all that up for security? I like the idea of a remote lock down, would that service work on a laptop if stolen or just mobile device?




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robertman11

It was more of an evolution of setup rather than setting up everything all at once. Mac and Apple devices have remote lock, locate and erase. I'm not sure about PCs, there may be something out there?




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procoder

Wow sounds cool Do you use or have you used Password Manager? I want to try that software...is it completely free or i have to purchase it?




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robertman11

You have to purchase it but they have a free trial. I think you also have to purchase it for each type of device (iPhone version and iPad version). I'm not sure, it has been a long time since I began using it. I love it though and highly recommend it.

It is also available for Windows and Android.




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procoder

Thank you , i just visited their website and software was very cool, i'll try the trial first then probably i will need to purchase it.




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Lynne

I've not heard of using fingerprints before, but that is way cool. I would love that. Then you don't have to remember anything and nobody can access your account.




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Beverly

What's amazing about that, is how no one can fake your fingerprint! A very ingenious security technique.




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Lynne

Yes I like it! I want one for my car too!




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Beverly

That's very cool! I need something like that for my work laptop. My whole life is on that thing :/




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hitmeasap

About the fingerprints.. I haven't used this before at all and I'm sorry for a bit stupid question perhaps, but I came to wonder, if you're using your thumbprint to access your phone and whatever, what if you accidentally burned your thumb? Would you still be able to use your other thumb or would it be impossible? And what would happen in such scenario?




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Beverly

Gadgets 360, “Fingerprint Sensors in Android Phones Easier to Hack Than Apple’s Touch ID: Report,” by Manish Singh, August 6, 2015

Possibly, an eyeprint would be a better option for most smartphone users Do you use or have you used Password Manager?




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hitmeasap

That might work indeed, (and it would be very cool!) but what happens in case you damage your eye then, the one you're using to gain access to your phone.. Could you use your other eye in such scenario?




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robertman11

The fingerprint is pretty cool on the iPhone/iPad. Instead of typing in your One Password on 1Password, you just place your thumb on the home button and it unlocks. A lot of apps on the iPhone/iPad are doing this now, for example Bank of America. It is so much more convenient than typing in a complicated password on the iPhone. A lot of apps also support 1Password too, so you don't actually have to type in your password or even load 1Password up.




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Lynne

I haven't used any password software before. I have heard that Last Pass is very good. I know a few people that have highly recommended it.
For me I feel a bit uneasy entering all my passwords online or into software. It just feels wrong to me and that is why I will never use it.

Call me old fashioned or whatever but I have all my passwords written down somewhere safe in my office.




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procoder

Yeah i have the same thoughts about these softwares, but for me, there is no better and safer place than my mind to store my passwords.




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idealmike

Exactly Febs, I'm that way too! I either store them in my browser using the built-in password manager, or I'll write them into my notepad and then put that into my small desktop safe or in my wall safe that's guarded by ninja trainer rottweilers. You can never be too careful these days! Do you use or have you used Password Manager?




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Beverly

Hi Febs, very happy you could join us here. Yes, it's worrisome for me too, putting all those trusted passwords into a third party software. Though I'm sure they are very trustworthy (depending upon the software creator). I will have to keep shopping around to find a good Password Manager software. Hopefully they are not too expensive, just one consideration.




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Lynne

I believe Last Pass is completely free and very good. Like I said there are a number of people I know that use them and rave about them.




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Beverly

I need to try this out soon as I have a lot of sites that I login on a regular basis. One of my biggest worries is when my computer dies and I lose access to some sites as the password was only saved on browser and I can't remember the password otherwise. Possibly a password manager service would work to fix that situation.




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MasterA

I never used any password managers but I have friends who use them and really like it.

There are some advantages with password managers:

  1. You don’t have to remember your password and this is very useful if you want to use a very complex passwords or a password generated with a random generator. These passwords are very hard to memorise so a password manager will do the job for you and such complex passwords offer much higher security.
  2. You don’t need to type your password anymore if you have a password manager so if someone installs a keylogger on your computer, then you are still safe. Yes, 2 factor authentication can still protect your accounts but if you use email confirmation as the second factor, then keyloggers can log your email password and your account can still be compromised. Therefore, it is best to use a code that is sent to your phone as your second factor. However, only big companies are offering this option and for websites that don't offer this, password mangers fixes this issue.
  3. All passwords entered into password managers or at least the good password managers are encrypted so it is definitely safe to add your password into it.




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idealmike

Well if you mean the built in password manager in my browser then yes absolutely I do. I don't have or use any 3rd party password managers though. I just use the built in password manager in my browser which makes it much easier to re-log into sites I'm likely to login/logout/login into again and it saves me not having to remember or dig up that password. If I didn't save it in my browser, I'd only have to save it somewhere else on my computer in a text file list or something and that's just hassles and an extra step. You can set a master password in your browser which you'll need to enter before it automatically enters your password for you though. But that's only really meant for public or shared computers or for the really paranoid. Since I'm the only one that uses my computer I don't need to do that. I do believe that all Firefox or Chrome stored passwords are encrypted though so even if your PC does become compromised, people can't just swipe your password file and see what all your passwords are without decrypting it and that can't be done unless you're the owner of that browser that is installed on that PC. Or something like that. But using extra software for it is just overkill and not needed in my opinion. The browser does a good enough job.




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Lynne

Yes I do this with a few websites too, but doesn't it delete all the saved passwords if you clear your browsing history or cookies? I'm sure this happened with me and then I had to enter everything again.




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idealmike

Nooo it doesn't delete your passwords too. Only your cache and cookies, site user preferences, active logins etc including form and search history, things you typed into forms and that. But your passwords are not removed when you do that no. To do that you manually need to remove them from your browsers password manager. However sometimes that happens for me as well and although I click for it to remember the password, when I got to login a 2nd time or the 1st time after registering and being logged out because of clearing my cache/cookies etc it doesn't remember my login details. This could be because the domain is different and it might be that it's saving it only for the www version of that domain or the version without it or something finicky like that! If you check your password manager by searching that site in it it should show you if there's a password stored and saved for it. You can view/copy it and then login and it should ask you again if you want to remember the login details and click yes obviously but I just wanted to let you know that and let you know that you're not alone! Do you use or have you used Password Manager?




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Lynne

Well this hasn't happened often, so not something to worry too much about. Just a pain when that happens.




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TommyCarey

I actually don't use any password storing software or websites because if they get cracked, I will have to change all of my passwords if I can still access my accounts lol Do you use or have you used Password Manager?

I know that if I were a hacker I'd target these websites in order to gain access to every website and platform the clients added for safe keeping. Storing my passwords in a "Safe" place online doesn't seem too safe to me. I'd rather store them in my head so only I know them. The only way to get them from me is water boarding and forcing them out.




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Lynne

See now that is what concerns me. If someone hacks into a password manager website... oh my what fun they would have right?

It is not likely someone would want to hack into my things at all, but I can certainly see how a password manager website would be appealing and then they would have access to everything I have.

Not a cool thought at all.




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Beverly

Something new and terrible to worry about. Do you use or have you used Password Manager?




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MasterA

If you choose a good password manager, then they will have 2 factor authentication which makes it much harder to hack. Technically, nothing is safe because if you type your password in manually all the time and you have a keylogger installed and your anti virus failed to detect it then all your accounts will be hacked. You can try a virtual keyboard; I have Kaspersky Internet Security and they have a virtual keyboard but this isn’t 100% safe. If you have a spyware on your PC, then it can record the letters you type. Again, not safe. A good password manager with a good 2 factor authentication is a pretty decent option.




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Lynne

Like you say anything can be hacked. I suppose it is about chooser whichever option is safest.

It's sort of like birth control... nothing is 100% safe. I know, I have 2 failed attempts at birth control and I hope I have now found the safest option. Because our happy surprise family is big enough now.




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MasterA

Yes, the problem is that when someone finds a way to prevent from being hacked, hackers would find a way to get past this and this just forms a continuous cycle. Therefore, nothing is safe as hackers keeps finding vulnerabilities. The best thing you can do is choose the safest option and always update yourself with all the latest information with keeping safe as well as have a good anti-virus. I am not saying using a password manager is the safest option though and I personally don’t use one but it is one that should be considered in my opinion.




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ajlancer

Hi procoder thanks for your nice question. I never used third party software for generating password. I always thought is it less value of my method. I never try by any software but when I was student of MCSE, I learned how to create a complex and secure password for any computer or network by own way. And I do not support any password generator software, because you cannot remember those complex word either noted. I am just going to give you just a little example to generate complex password by yourself. Use symbol minimum and with 1 upper case and 1 lower case characters. Beside you can use similar characters and ambiguous Characters. Just simple method.

Thanks by Ajlancer




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idealmike

Some websites don't let you use ambiguous or non latin or special characters in your password. But it does help to make the password much stronger. I usually just bash at my keyboard using shift key sometimes and add a few numbers in between and some special characters and come up with something like Xc7vfS56Hy4%g5&6BN4|jhC#D3r5HGsc[VFgfB%Y56 but some sites don't allow passwords like these that are either too long or have special characters in them.

Now since peoples security is of the utmost concern to people and the site owners, why don't some big sites allow passwords like this?




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robertman11

Awesome password example! Did you know that long passwords are better than short complex passwords? And long complex passwords like your password above is an excellent example of a very secure password. Most people believe adding complexity to short passwords like: r0b$rtm4n or think that long passwords such as 12345678912345689 are sufficient.

Here is why:

Long, complex passwords make you less susceptible to brute-force attacks. Each time you add either an additional character set (e.g. a-z, A-Z, 0-9, special symbols, etc.) or increase the character length of your password, you're exponentially increasing the total number of possibly correct passwords (i.e. the bits of entropy), and that means it will take longer for a brute force program to guess the right one.

Note that for this to work the password must be both long and complex. The password "123456789" is nine total characters, but will likely be guessed within the first dozen or so attempts.

Above sourced from here.

On a separate note, relating to the length of passwords, a website can actually be attacked via long password method. A white hat hacker once sent me an example for my website. He said he could enter this (he had an attachment) as his password and do it over and over again, thus bringing my website to a halt. The this, the attachment, was a text file of a password which was over 1,000 words long (that is words, not characters). He said he could continuously change his password in the settings area or create new accounts which would cause the servers to crash because MD5ing those extremely long passwords required a lot of server resource, especially every half a second. Do you use or have you used Password Manager?




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anwebservices

I actually never trusted such things to keep my passwords on for many reasons, but after reading this nice discussion it looks like it can be safe option and peace of mind, so i will definitely consider using it to relax my own memory Do you use or have you used Password Manager?




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EliteWriter

Personally I do not trust password managers that much and have never used one either. I enjoyed reading your comments and I get what you mean, but the fact that you have all your passwords stored there sounds a bit hazardous to me no matter how safe and protected it might seem. I know I may sound old fashioned but I prefer to remember them or store them safely in writing than trust them all in one software program. Sometimes I really worry about the safety of my passwords as you read some scary stuff about what hackers manage to do! So the safest place is my memory.




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kuti101

I always make use of LastPass it works perfectly with Mozilla and Chrome.

Hope this helps.




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