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Is it possible to sell the services for less than 5$ for level 1 users?



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Is it possible to sell the services for less than 5$ for level 1 users?

I am using SEOCLERKS from a month. And I have such great services and I want them to sell at fairly less price because I want to satisfy my customers more than my money requirement. So is there any way to sell services at fairly low prices?

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sunil0021
Sorry but level 1 sellers can't create services less then $5 but you can promote your own services for more sales + 100% affiliate earnings so that you can get level 2/3/4/5 and money from your affiliates also Is it possible to sell the services for less than 5$ for level 1 users?

- Sunil Bishnoi



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Sean101
Right now, no, but when you level up you can sell services at lower prices as well as do a lot of other things you can just now. Is it possible to sell the services for less than 5$ for level 1 users? See the following pages for more information..



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exjordanary
You can't create services less than $5 at level 1


Because then Level 1 Users would List a bunch of $1 Services, solely for the sake of building Feedback, and Leveling Up.

It helps to prevent Fraud & Abuse in the Marketplace, and filter out the ones with ill intent.

Of course, you COULD always PiggyBack if you want. But whichever Seller you Piggyback on will most likely want at least 20%. So on top of SEOClerk's 20% Commission, you'd end up with 60% for yourself.



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peachpurple
thanks for your information, no wonder i couldn't put my service at $1. It is difficult to get orders with $5 for a drawing job done. Maybe I should add in more offers to my service.



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Asmodeus
Unfortunately, no, and I see that as a big disadvantage when it's difficult enough to get sales as a level 1 seller as it is. I think level 1 sellers should have a fairer playing field, but that's not the case here.

Because then Level 1 Users would List a bunch of $1 Services, solely for the sake of building Feedback, and Leveling Up.


And why shouldn't they? It's irritating to see level 2+ sellers offering the EXACT same thing for less, which diverts potential buyers from your own sales listing and just adds to the difficulty in catching that first break from buyers.

I understand that sellers should earn higher level privileges through criteria such as sales volume, good quality services, timely responses, customer satisfaction, etc, but the price of your service should NOT be a ranking privilege, as it holds no relevance to your quality as a seller.



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exjordanary
Unfortunately, no, and I see that as a big disadvantage when it's difficult enough to get sales as a level 1 seller as it is. I think level 1 sellers should have a fairer playing field, but that's not the case here.



And why shouldn't they? It's irritating to see level 2+ sellers offering the EXACT same thing for less, which diverts potential buyers from your own sales listing and just adds to the difficulty in catching that first break from buyers.

I understand that sellers should earn higher level privileges through criteria such as sales volume, good quality services, timely responses, customer satisfaction, etc, but the price of your service should NOT be a ranking privilege, as it holds no relevance to your quality as a seller.


I agree with u that it holds "no relevance to your quality as a seller", but I think maybe the rule was made by SEOClerks to ensure their Reputation which does "hold relevance to the quality of the Marketplace" in general. (not to mention after paying Paypal Fees TWICE, I think SEOClerks actually loses money on the $1 Transactions.) Once when the Buyer makes payment, it actually goes into SEOClerks Paypal account which in escrow (minus the Paypal fee). Then, when Seller requests a Payout, SEOClerks covers the fees again when it goes from their account to the Seller's.

Then,there's always the Fraud Factor

You might not know it, but over 50% of many Users out there have Committed Fraud in one way or another. So much so, that a whole Department had to be created just to detect and prevent fraud in the marketplace.

I do think it would be a good idea to allow Sellers to add other Seller's Services as "extras" in their Services as a way of Cross-Promotion, and a way to better Customize the Services they offer.

For example, if I provided Youtube Views, but wanted to also offer Likes, Subscribers, Comments, etc- I could browse other Seller's Services offering Likes, Subs, etc and opt to include them in my Service as an added "extra" - (now imagine is being cross-domain with Codeclerks & ListingDock)

Upon checkout though, they'd be treated as two separate transactions where the Buyer is given two Order Numbers, 2 Sets of Instructions, and can leave individual feedback for each Seller.

It would basically work like a Shopping Cart. U Like?

I come up with these ideas on a Daily basis so no worries.

I used to drive Jordan NUTS until he was like, "dude, u need an outlet. Here's a blog"

What Domain name do u want? Here, stop bugging me --- CommunityClerks



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Asmodeus
I agree with u that it holds "no relevance to your quality as a seller", but I think maybe the rule was made by SEOClerks to ensure their Reputation which does "hold relevance to the quality of the Marketplace" in general. (not to mention after paying Paypal Fees TWICE, I think SEOClerks actually loses money on the $1 Transactions.) Once when the Buyer makes payment, it actually goes into SEOClerks Paypal account which in escrow (minus the Paypal fee). Then, when Seller requests a Payout, SEOClerks covers the fees again when it goes from their account to the Seller's.

Then,there's always the Fraud Factor

You might not know it, but over 50% of many Users out there have Committed Fraud in one way or another. So much so, that a whole Department had to be created just to detect and prevent fraud in the marketplace.

I do think it would be a good idea to allow Sellers to add other Seller's Services as "extras" in their Services as a way of Cross-Promotion, and a way to better Customize the Services they offer.

For example, if I provided Youtube Views, but wanted to also offer Likes, Subscribers, Comments, etc- I could browse other Seller's Services offering Likes, Subs, etc and opt to include them in my Service as an added "extra" - (now imagine is being cross-domain with Codeclerks & ListingDock)

Upon checkout though, they'd be treated as two separate transactions where the Buyer is given two Order Numbers, 2 Sets of Instructions, and can leave individual feedback for each Seller.

It would basically work like a Shopping Cart. U Like?

I come up with these ideas on a Daily basis so no worries.

I used to drive Jordan NUTS until he was like, "dude, u need an outlet. Here's a blog"

What Domain name do u want? Here, stop bugging me --- CommunityClerks


I like your cross promotion idea and I also think that would help network groups of people together into almost a small company vibe. Looking forward to that one!

However, I still don't agree with your general negativity toward Level 1 sellers. Mentioning fraud in the conversation makes it look like you're pointing the finger at newbies, since that's what the thread is about, but actually ANYONE can commit fraud, including high level sellers, which I've seen before. I've purchased a few things from level 3 and up sellers just this week and I wasn't impressed at all. In fact, 2 of them have quite the little scam going on. LOTS of multiple account schemes going on as well that are quite obvious.

I can see the maximum of $125 being there for fraud reasons until a newbie proves themselves, but not a minimum.

Also, if $1 transactions are such a costly hassle, then why have them at all? Start the minimum at $3 or $5. Again, the amount has NOTHING to do with seller level or quality of service. It's just another barrier to getting ahead. Plain and simple, the $5 minimum barrier for level one sellers is pointless, and creates an unfair playing field. They should either remove it OR raise the minimum to $5 for EVERYONE. No exceptions.



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exjordanary
I like your cross promotion idea and I also think that would help network groups of people together into almost a small company vibe. Looking forward to that one!

However, I still don't agree with your general negativity toward Level 1 sellers. Mentioning fraud in the conversation makes it look like you're pointing the finger at newbies, since that's what the thread is about, but actually ANYONE can commit fraud, including high level sellers, which I've seen before. I've purchased a few things from level 3 and up sellers just this week and I wasn't impressed at all. In fact, 2 of them have quite the little scam going on. LOTS of multiple account schemes going on as well that are quite obvious....


Whoa. No need to take it personally. There was no "Negativity" directed at anyone. These are just facts. Fraud DOES exist. On every Level, you're right about that. I was on Staff here at SEOClerks last year, and worked the Support Desk. So how else could I have given you the facts? Is there any other way you suggest I could have done this without you taking it as "Negativity" directed towards you?

So I'm wondering how you would run a Site like this to protect it from fruad. What's your solution?

Then why don't you have a site like this then? Exactly.

Now I run the SEOClerks Blog ; CommunityClerks and I experience an 80% to 90% fraud percentage with Coupon Requests. It takes up so much of my time, that it hinders me from helping the Legitimate Requests.

So unless you are offering to help in some way, then I don't really know what else I can do to help you.

Maybe you'd like to hear the Complaints I had about the "Level System" back when I first started here - at least you'd get a laugh or two. I hope. Is it possible to sell the services for less than 5$ for level 1 users?



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Asmodeus
Whoa. No need to take it personally. There was no "Negativity" directed at anyone. These are just facts. Fraud DOES exist. On every Level, you're right about that. I was on Staff here at SEOClerks last year, and worked the Support Desk. So how else could I have given you the facts? Is there any other way you suggest I could have done this without you taking it as "Negativity" directed towards you?

So I'm wondering how you would run a Site like this to protect it from fruad. What's your solution?

Then why don't you have a site like this then? Exactly.

Now I run the SEOClerks Blog ; CommunityClerks and I experience an 80% to 90% fraud percentage with Coupon Requests. It takes up so much of my time, that it hinders me from helping the Legitimate Requests.

So unless you are offering to help in some way, then I don't really know what else I can do to help you.

Maybe you'd like to hear the Complaints I had about the "Level System" back when I first started here - at least you'd get a laugh or two. I hope. Is it possible to sell the services for less than 5$ for level 1 users?


Actually what I said was "I still don't agree with your general negativity toward Level 1 sellers", NOT specifically towards me, but your new post actually IS specifically towards me. I wasn't taking anything personally, as my comments were meant in defence of level 1 sellers. Sorry you took it wrong.

Also, "facts" don't include nonsense math, such as "over 50% of many Users out there have Committed Fraud". What on Earth is "50% of many"??? lol

Also, I NEVER said there shouldn't be levels. My complaint is with the $5 limit, which has NOTHING to do with the quality of sellers. It's an arbitrary amount that hinders many things, on both sides. If you're going to respond to me specifically, then please respond to what I'm actually talking about.

"Then why don't you have a site like this then? Exactly." And neither do you. You're working for THEIR site. You don't own it yourself, so we're the same that way, but hurling a comment like that at me is immature and shows your power trip clearly to everyone. Good for you on running their blog. I hope you earn good money for it, as they do. We're all proud of you Is it possible to sell the services for less than 5$ for level 1 users?

The bottom line is that EVERYONE should be respected for the hard work they do, including level 1 sellers. I have ZERO respect for anyone who doesn't believe in equality, in ALL aspects of life and business, online AND offline. It bothers me when someone can't see that. I'll respect your comments when you respect mine. Poking at me because I don't own a site like SEOclerks, when you're just an affiliate as well, isn't helping. Yes, you're successful at it. Good for you. Enjoy it as long as you can.

I'll extend the olive branch for the sake of our working relationship here, if you're man (or woman) enough to accept it. Truce??



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exjordanary

Once again, you're taking things that were said, and making them all about you.

Read my VERY First Sentence!! "There was no "Negativity" directed at anyone" - Notice the word "ANYONE". (NOT directed at you)

Also notice that I said "there was NO Negativity Directed at.........." - Why would it even matter WHAT or WHO proceeded that sentence??

Even if GOD's name proceeded it, either way, there wasn't any negativity from me, directed towards ANYONE. That includes YOU too!!

I began with that sentence for a reason- and it was a STATEMENT.

But you're tripping on a QUESTION I was asking you at the END of that paragraph, when I was asking you:
"Is there any other way you suggest I could have done this without you taking it as "Negativity" directed towards you?"

Which was in reply to your statement: "I still don't agree with your general negativity toward Level 1 sellers"

You ARE a Level 1 Seller are you not??
Well, I didn't want to EXCLUDE you from the List of Level 1 Sellers, because "EVERYONE should be respected" <---wasn't it you who said that??)

Ok then, that's why I ASKED that question and phrased it as such because, I highly doubt you have the ability or authority to speak for ALL Level 1 Users by answering that Question for ALL of them. Nor do I think they or ANYONE even cares about this ridiculous, waste of time, immature, Rant (from BOTH of us - not just you)

No, I don't have a Site like theirs, But I'm not the one trying to make suggestions as to how they should run things. So, that doesn't apply to me whatsoever.

I merely explained that I worked here to help you realize that I wasn't just giving an "OPINION" (like u are), I was giving you FACTS.
and the FACT that you took it as some sort of ego trip on my part, clearly shows who the immature one is here.

"50% of Many" is a Term I used to explain the Many Sites that were experiencing Fraud, each with different Growth rates.

And in reply to your last paragraph about respect, life, equality, and business - I get it dude. But please don't insult my intelligence. I didn't become the #1 Seller & #1 Affiliate here by disrespecting others. - and don't assume that ALL I do in life is Run their blog (it's not their blog - it mine).
Cuz what I do here, is just one small aspect of my life.
I've already started TWO Companies that are JUST as Successful as this one (but I would be violating their Policies if I shared those Links with you)
-The two industries are Music Producing, Publishing, Licensing (about $3k to $7k per month)
-The other has to do with Exotic Botanicals ($7k to $10k per month)


I already know you're gonna ask, then why do I have time to come waste responding to some misunderstanding in this Forum. Well, first off, is because I care. If I didn't give a shit, I would even give u the time of day. My time is very valuable, as I'm sure yours is too.

But the reason I can afford to spend my time here, is:
-Because with the Music Licensing, was from a Publishing Company (ASCAP) I started a long time ago, and the Payments come in via Royalty Checks from Performance Rights Organizations all over the world for stuff I produced back in the 90's. But the payments keep increasing as more & more Countries around the world begin to "Catch Up" with Hollywood.

-And I hire other to run my shipping department for the Botanicals (which grosses 8k-10k per month)

I really didn't mean for there to be any misunderstanding. I let's just call it that and move both move on.

My intentions were NOTHING more than to try to help. I could have been doing many other things or helping Clients who have already paid me for me to work on their Services, but I made them wait - I thought maybe someone would appreciate input from someone who has been around the Clerks Network for a longer time. But I guess I was wrong.

Honestly, it's a little hurtful, and discouraging. Next time I'm inclined to offer my help to someone for free, maybe I just won't.

I think I prefer the people who pay me for my time.

Take care. I just want everyone to be happy. If you'd like a refund, I'd be happy to give you one.



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sunil0021
Well i think this thread is going off topic, i will move ahead and lock this thread to prevent more replies, hope you all are ok with it.

- Sunil Bishnoi



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vinaya
You cannot create less than $5 service if you are on level one. However, there is a way sell your service for less than $5. Here's what you can do.
Let's imagine your service is writing an article for $2. However, you cannot make this service if you are level now. Now create a service: 3 articles for $6. By charging $6 for 3 articles, your service is basically a $2 service.



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