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Can Google know the IP address that created a Web 2.0 site?



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Can Google know the IP address that created a Web 2.0 site?

Some people say that when building Web 2.0's you shouldn't use the same IP for creating all of them because that is a footprint and can lead to the search engines penalizing that Web 2.0 or something. But as far as I have always been aware, web 2.0's don't show the IP address of the person that created it. Just like they don't show you what the email address is of the person that created it either.

If your IP address was published on them somehow then I'd get why you wouldn't want that. But there is no way that Google can even tell anyway right?

So why is it that people think that about web 2.0 sites? Is there some special access key that Google has with them where they can see this data? Would they even want to?

Does it even matter anyway?

I mean, is it because they mean if you're creating lots of them using some kind of bh tool or app that was creating accounts on hundreds of web 2.0 sites like Buddypress, or Elg, Jcow, phpfox, Dolphin sites etc for the purpose of building web 2.0 profile links or something then they can find out and penalize you for that?

As far as I was aware they can't see the IP address that created those profiles on those sites either. This isn't something that I'd do because to me Web 2.0 building is using the top sites only (although those can be good for your tier3's tier4' etc) and it's not something you'd do in one day anyway. Create 1 or 2 a day/week or something and by then you'd have rebooted your PC/laptop 10-100 times and have a new IP address each time anyway if you had a dynamic IP anyway.

So yeah, its probably something that the noobs and blaggers say but that's my thinking on the matter if anyone can confirm that to me? Can Google know the IP address that created a Web 2.0 site?

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TommyCarey

You're correct, when creating the web2.0 it doesn't show your IP, unless the web2.0 platform has odd posting/profile rules and wants to show it. But as far as my experience goes, I've never had a problem creating web2.0s from the same IP address.

Now I will use HMA (hide my ass) and I'll have the IPs auto rotate in order to keep me bouncing all over the world. It's a nice little feature they have to be sneaky ;)

I also have my cookies/cache/history auto cleared a few times a day so that I don't have websites tracking me as often. If I know I'm going to be doing something that Google, Yahoo! and Bing may take as shady, I'll configure my settings to auto delete everything ever 10 minutes. Sure it gets annoying if I forget to turn it off and I'm browsing online. But it's completely worth it and I notice it's still on after 10 minutes lol Can Google know the IP address that created a Web 2.0 site?



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idealmike

I think so too! I try not to clear my cookies and cache too much simply because it's a pain having to relogin again on some sites or perhaps they remove my preference settings too and I have to redo them again. It can get tedious. One thing I'll say about cookies is, other websites can't actually see your cookies anyway unless its a cookie that comes from that site. Most cookies are a simple session token, but sometimes they contain your login credentials, usually encrypted or hashed in some format. But since cookies are only sent back to the same site that originated them, even if cookies contained personal information, it is not going to be shared with every site you visit. And sites can't read the cookies in your browser from other sites. So all that you are doing is not even needed to be done. Can Google know the IP address that created a Web 2.0 site?



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idealmike

Check out Cookie Myths: Fact and Fiction about cookies. It makes for some very eye opening reading!



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W130SN

Some people are concerned about this and although I don't think we should get too paranoid, I do try to avoid using Google Chrome and Gmail when creating more than a few Web 2.'s

That would be the only way for Google to find out what sites you were visiting and creating accounts on.

Although whether they actually use that information is another debate, I think it is better to be safe than sorry.



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idealmike

Hmmm. What is the concern though? I think you're being overly paranoid. But it's good that you're are being concerned and trying to protect your interests which you have at heart. But what is wrong about creating more than 2-3 Web 2's from the same IP address? There is nothing wrong with that if you're going to be using them for legitimate, ethical reasons. And even if you wasn't, there wouldn't be a single thing they could do nor is there any rule against it in the Google Webmaster Guidelines under the things you should avoid doing either. Google allows you to do SEO on your site. It knows that in order to do that, you're going to have to create some accounts at some point on some sites such as Web 2.0 sites in particular. There is nothing wrong with doing that. It's not blackhat SEO to do that. It's creating accounts yourself, for yourself, for your site. But some people are faster at doing things than others. Some people might want to create a bunch of Web 2.0 links for their sites. So they register say 6 accounts on some Web 2's in one day, then another 5 the next day and so on throughout the week. Does that make what they're doing blackhat? No it doesn't, it makes them a little eager, it makes them determined, it makes them proficient. But it doesn't make them a blackhat and they shouldn't or wouldn't be penalized for that either. Plus, you only get a penalty when you trigger an algorithm, and you can't really do that even if you populate all 10 Web 2's with content and links to your site in one day. That's the good thing about using Web 2's. But 10 new backlinks in 1 day is hardly likely to trigger an algo and get you a penalty anyway. Especially when they're coming from high authority Web 2.0 sites as well. It is better to be safe than sorry, but it's also better to be right than wrong too. You could be going through all these extra steps and jumping through all these extra hoops for no reason at all and it's just slowing your work method down. Can Google know the IP address that created a Web 2.0 site?



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